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Brighton Pride 2010… a straw poll

Thursday, 31 December 2009

Before we begin: Pride in Brighton & Hove is run by a board of volunteer trustees, all of which are giving up their time for nothing alongside full time jobs and none of which are allowed to benefit from their role as a trustee. The charity also employs a part time Chief Executive and part time paid worker for sponsorship and fundraising.

Wilde Ones, the company behind the production of the event for the last ten years, has not tendered for the 2010 event, giving two main reasons for not feeling able to submit a tender for the job this year: Pride's tender document had expanded from 12 pages to 70 pages and in their eyes contained a number of points which made it unworkable. Additionally, the tender deadline was at a time when Pride were publicly stating that they had a shortfall in funds and would possibly need to scale back and rethink the event to meet a new tighter budget.

Instead Wilde Ones put together a proposal to produce the festival in its current format (ie - similar to the 2009 event) - but putting funds raised over and above the cost of running the event back into the community sector. This was, in effect, a no risk proposal for Pride, though any additional funds raised would not go directly to Pride but would go to the Rainbow Fund administered by the Sussex Community Foundation (www.sussexgiving.org.uk) and would be ringfenced for local LGBT groups. As we understand it, a trustee of pride has been invited to form part of the distribution committee for the Rainbow Fund.

Following the tender process, Pride in Brighton & Hove informed Fisher Productions that they had won the 4 year tender to produce the Preston Park event starting in 2010 - though they have not yet said what format this will take and what tents/areas this will include. Gscene magazine subsequently paid for an Experian credit assessment to be carried out on Fisher which reported that it is a "maximum risk company" with "very heavy trading losses". The unfavourable credit report makes it unclear as to whether businesses will still be willing to risk putting thousands of pounds up front to sponsor key areas of the park such as the dance tent and cabaret tent.

Conversely, comments from Pride Trustees at the last open meeting indicated that they feel that the Wilde Ones 'rescue package' would mean relinquishing control of the event to a single private company which they felt was very much the wrong direction to take, pointing out that this is exactly how London Pride failed.

Both the Wilde Ones and Fisher proposals for the park now include a perimeter fence to help curb some of the problems experienced over the last couple of years and to safeguard takings over the bars which are an important part of ensuring that the event can remain free.

Regardless of who runs the park event in 2010 - if it is to take place at all then a reasonable degree of sponsorship needs to be raised. The arguments each way here go something like this: Pride may find it hard to raise sponsorship from businesses if they do not have the full support of the community which - on the surface of it - they do not currently appear to have, given the reaction on Facebook and the reaction reported in Gscene of the majority of gay businesses in Brighton. Pride argues that it is only a small but vocal minority of people that have concerns with the direction that plans for the 2010 event are taking - and that those people have financial reasons for voicing support for the Wilde Ones proposal. Wilde Ones may also meet problems raising sponsorship given that they are a private company (businesses may find it difficult or impossible to justify donating to anything other than a not-for-profit or charitable organisation). Wilde Ones argue that their proposal will work with a minimum level of sponsorship which they have already secured in principle, and that either way - this is a risk that they themselves will take rather than the charity.

There are undoubtedly a multitude of other issues surrounding the 2010 event but we believe we have at least touched upon the key points here. Whichever way the event goes in 2010 - if it is to go ahead at all then it is vital that it receives full public and business support. Whatever the outcome of this poll, we hope that it will at least provide a focus for urgent discussion over the coming weeks.

Declaring our interests: REALBrighton has been a strong supporter of Pride in Brighton and Hove over the last seven years, supplying and maintaining the charity's website, supplying photography services and offering advertising and other services in support of the event. REALBrighton does not benefit from Pride financially. REALBrighton has no connection with Wilde Ones. REALBrighton supplies photography to Gscene magazine. Aeon Events is a REALBrighton Business Member, as are most other gay businesses in the city.

This poll has now closed. The results can be found at: www.realbrighton.com/news-story/678

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said by aloha
on Sunday, 3 January 2010, 5:41pm

Maybe a third option would be to withdraw from using Fisher and to use Wilde Ones on an extended year's contract on simillar terms as before - with extra revenue to be raised by fencing and minimum entry charge as is necessary. This will give everyone time to reorganise properly for 2011.

Alan Vavoom

fafi2

said by fafi2
on Tuesday, 5 January 2010, 9:07am

Your article is very misleading. Is your journalist connected with WIlde Ones in any way personally? Is RealBrighton connected to Wilde Ones? Do Wilde Ones consitute a significant advertiser or funder? This seems like the only explanation for such a biased piece eg. statements like "Wilde Ones, the company behind the production of the event " - this is a mischevous claim, and seems intended to give the company a status it doesnt have. "This was in fact a no risk proposal for Pride" - how do you know this? Has it been fully assessed by insurers and accountants? Unfortunately RealBrighton seems to be dishonest about its biased position. Posing as neutral, but presenting a highly favourable position on WIlde Ones is hardly a neutral 'community' comment. BTW on registration for RealBrighton, - not all of us our gay - quite a lot of us are lesbians, but this publication only seems to be for gays/guys - is there a connection here?

Brighton2010

said by Brighton2010
on Tuesday, 5 January 2010, 11:17am

Are you willing to say who wrote this statement for the Real Brighton website?
The financial assessment of Fisher Productions has been published, with no mention of the financial assessment of Wilde Ones, perhaps that could be reported too? Equally there is no explanation of why the tender document has been extended to 70 pages - is that a requirment of the Charity Commission? And is it intended to ensure a more robust tendering process and allowing for greater transparency?
I personally would be concerned if the Pride park event were to become less about the LGBT community and more an extension of the gay scene (which is only a partial representation of the LGBT community and something that many LGBT people choose not to access). The current Pride organisation have worked hard to ensure Pride has a strong community dimension.
Who currently sits on the distribution committee for the Rainbow Fund, how are these people elected, and how representative of the local LGBT community are they? This is unclear from your statement. Also, why is the Rainbow Fund a better forum for distributing grants to local LGBT organisations than Pride? This is also unclear.
Given the information published here, I feel inclined to favour the Pride option, over the 'rescue package'.

Samwell

said by Samwell
on Wednesday, 6 January 2010, 9:38am

Responding to the comments above:

As stated in the 'declaring our interests' paragraph, REALBrighton has no connection whatsoever with Wilde Ones (they have never advertised with the site and nor are we personally connected). We stand by the statement that Wilde Ones has been behind the production of the event on Preston Park and don't believe it was in any way misleading to state that this has been the case for the last ten years. The package they proposed was billed as a 'no risk' one because as we understand it Wilde Ones were not expecting Pride to front any money or take any financial risk on the success of the park event.

There has been no published financial assessment of Wilde Ones as far as we're aware. We did not pay for the assessment of Fisher Productions - but reported the findings that were uncovered when Gscene paid for their own assessment.

We have not intended to imply that giving money to the Rainbow Fund is necessarily any better than giving to Pride, simply stating that this was part of the Wilde Ones proposal.

Some of the other questions may be better be directed towards Pride themselves, or to the organisations in question. We have presented the information with which we've been supplied and the intention has not been to mislead, to be mischievous or to attempt to influence your vote. This is an attempt to get a genuine feel for public opinion so that we can move forward. There is a great deal more information to be gleaned from the Pride website and perhaps from the various Facebook groups - but we have done our best to present that information that we considered pertinent to this poll.

Hodgie

said by Hodgie
on Wednesday, 6 January 2010, 11:45pm

Brighton2010 - you commented:

"I personally would be concerned if the Pride park event were to become less about the LGBT community and more an extension of the gay scene (which is only a partial representation of the LGBT community and something that many LGBT people choose not to access)."

Without being too blunt, maybe you should stop relying on gay businesses (and their customers) to pay for it?

fafi2 - you commented:

"This seems like the only explanation for such a biased piece eg. statements like "Wilde Ones, the company behind the production of the event " - this is a mischevous claim, and seems intended to give the company a status it doesnt have."

and

""This was in fact a no risk proposal for Pride" - how do you know this?"

Please read:

www.gscene.com/pdf/WildeOnesRescuePackage.pdf

In it you will find:

"Wilde Ones has been involved in Brighton Pride for 14 years, the last ten of which it has produced the event in its entirety."

I think this is widely accepted - do you know any different?

This document also says:

"This proposal does not ask for any of the donations from business fundraising to go towards staging the event."

So - I don't think there is any question of bias as you assume.

I have no axe to grind, but the whole thing seems odd to me - it may be that Fisher Prods are brilliant - but their website showcases seems to indicate they run corporate parties. This seems a world away from running a free event for 120,000 people.

I'm also sceptical why tendering has been deemed necessary when proven providers were already in place, not just for infrastructure, but also other services such as security.

If nothing else its a cost Pride can ill afford for what seems like no financial gain, and, as far as I know, it is not a legal requirement.

misshap

said by misshap
on Friday, 8 January 2010, 1:25pm

I believe the article you have written is clear and has tried to be fair to both parties. Thank you!

What is evident is that a lot of e-mails have been sent out by individuals which are clearly aimed at obtaining a biased vote! That is NOT fair!

Pride was set up by the local community and as such we are responsible for it. The message has now been lost and I genuinely believe we have been set back years because of the disgusting way this has been handled by BOTH sides - or rather by certain individuals on both sides.

Pride is not owned by business it is owned by people and it represents a community that wants to be accepted and treated fairly! If we can not get past an argument over what sort of 'Party' we have on one day then we have clearly missed the point!

mikeymoo

said by mikeymoo
on Friday, 8 January 2010, 2:52pm

It's kind of like voting for "giant douche" or "turd sandwich".

To be honest, I knew years ago about all of these politics, I used to listen in on the Owner and the Editor discussing where pride was going wrong and now it seems, BOTH of the rescue plans seem a bit menacing.

I've been putting my cent in on Facebook so I may as well say it now.

An event that is about expressing being who you are, open, free, should not have a fence around it! Even if it does bring in extra revenue! Does Maisie Trollette walk around with a fence around her? I've never walked around with a fence around me, and neither should Preston Park!

If I buy booze from a newsagent on London Road and then take it into Preston Park, it should NOT get taken off of me. I put a tenner in the bucket (plus more when I go to pride events and put me dollar in) and therefore I waiver the right to buy the watered down crap that's being sold for almost £3 a pint on site. Oh yeh, and I'm in a park! Enforcing people to drink only what they serve down the park WON'T COMBAT BINGE DRINKERS because they usually have the income to drink the crap in the first place! (that is if they haven't paid £20 in donations)

I used to "block out" the politics when I worked at the Amsterdam but I can no longer. A lot of gay people don't want to even see straight people in the park, which I think is a shame. Pride is about coming together, seeing past these issues and having a fucking good time. If WE can't even see past this issue, and get along, all of us, together, NOW - then what chance does an event in August have?

Let's hope the event that rises from the ashes this year is PRIDE and not "generic park event #234".

Bristol_Crystal

said by Bristol_Crystal
on Friday, 8 January 2010, 4:55pm

Well looking at the poll results it seems that brighton wants a cut down Pride with no money going to LGBT causes. What is the matter with people?

gingapete

said by gingapete
on Friday, 8 January 2010, 5:39pm

For any charity to use a company that is a High Risk Credit is just ridiculous and irresponsible, and show's no regard to LGBT events.

The Wilde Ones has organised and kept pride running for the last DECADE, why change something that isn't broken?

The Wilde Ones proposal is within budget and proposes the same fencing to stop illegal peddlers of alcohol and to add a minimum charge/donation for entrance.

The only thing I would suggest is that whoever takes this on must be forced to agree by signed contract that the minimum charge will not change for 2011, 2012, 2013 or any other pride - as that's what killed off London Pride...

Brighton Pride is the biggest free event in Europe, it brings a lot of tourism to the city which should sure warrant some funding from the council. The city will make a fortune on hotel stays, restaurants, local businesses all profiting from a FREE GAY, LESBIAN, TRANSGENDER and BI EVENT!

thesussexsquare

said by thesussexsquare
on Saturday, 9 January 2010, 2:03pm

I agree with other commentators that your summary of events is extremely misleading - even if it is well meaning.

WIlde Ones had every opportunity to put in a tender but chose not to do so. As the incumbents they would surely have stood the best and strongest chance to secure the contract.

The highly orchestrated campaign against Pride by Wilde Ones and their cronies is like the proverbial baby throwing the toys out of the pram and screaming blue murder to ensure that none of us get any peace.

Wilde Ones' excuse for not putting in a tender submission is flimsy in the extreme. As any business knows a response to a tender is only the first step in getting into serious negotiations.

Perhaps what Wilde Ones objected to was that the tender documents called for more scrutiny than they cared for. Four other credible companies were able to submit tenders without bleating, so why not Wilde Ones? No one likes a poor loser and Wilde Ones have demonstrated that it is certainly that.

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